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		<title>BillwithUs &#8211; A Scammin&#8217; All The Way to the AG&#8217;s Office</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back on a quaint, late September afternoon, I received the bill for our home phone line from AT&#38;T, and something immediately caught my eye &#8211; my normally $50 bill was $80! Quickly, I began to search the bill like a hawk to discover a $21 charge for a collect call from Vail, Colorado care of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back on a quaint, late September afternoon, I received the bill for our home phone line from AT&amp;T, and something immediately caught my eye &#8211; my normally $50 bill was $80! Quickly, I began to search the bill like a hawk to discover a $21 charge for a collect call from Vail, Colorado care of &#8220;Transaction Clearing / BillwithUs&#8221;.</p>
<div id="attachment_133" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 346px"><a href="http://www.mrbrown.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Screen-shot-2010-03-17-at-8.55.42-PM.png"><img class="size-full wp-image-133" title="BillwithUs" src="http://www.mrbrown.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Screen-shot-2010-03-17-at-8.55.42-PM.png" alt="" width="336" height="277" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Scam of the Century!</p></div>
<p>At first I thought maybe my wife had some wacky cracked out relative in Vail that she accepted a collect call from, but surprisingly, she knows of no one in Vail, Colorado. I attempted to call the number, but it just rings and rings and rings&#8230;</p>
<p>I got on Google as fast as I could, and searched for &#8220;BillwithUs&#8221;. Turns out it is a <a href="http://clarkhoward.com/liveweb/shownotes/2008/04/18/13462/" target="_blank">very</a> <a href="http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/billwithus-inc-c207530.html" target="_blank">well</a> <a href="http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-257-2455" target="_blank">known</a> and <a href="http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/07/collect-call-scams-still-going.html" target="_blank">documented</a> &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cramming_(fraud)" target="_blank">cramming</a>&#8221; scam. Some little outfit in god knows where falsely bills people for collect calls that were never made and received, and hopes to god that most people don&#8217;t look at or question their telephone bills. Well, unfortuantely for them, I do. And I&#8217;m two shakes from being a fully licensed attorney (plus, I&#8217;m unemployed, so I have all of the free time in the world!), so I do what is expected of me &#8211; file a complaint with the Missouri Attorney General.</p>
<p>While the complaint is being processed, I call AT&amp;T, which is a completely unpleasant experience. AT&amp;T&#8217;s people tell me there&#8217;s nothing I can do about it, I can&#8217;t prevent 3rd parties from billing to my telephone account (i.e. the experience can repeat itself!), and I need to call this phony BillwithUs, even though a quick Google search brings up loads of cramming complaints and Attorney General complaints filed around the country.</p>
<p>So, I call BillwithUs. They insist I accepted the phone call from this phantom number in Vail, Colorado. I start raising hell, and without arguing with me, they credit me the amount &#8212; obviously, they know they&#8217;re in the wrong, otherwise they wouldn&#8217;t be so quick to credit the amount!</p>
<p>Months later, after Chris Kosher&#8217;s (Missouri&#8217;s AG) consumer complaints office completes their &#8220;investigation&#8221;, I get a letter from their office, which states they do not feel any fraud is taking place (even though the FTC has opened a case against them, and there are five complaints in the past 6 months <strong>in Missouri alone</strong>), and they attached a letter from BillwithUs&#8217;s &#8220;Jing Telmo&#8221;, which is almost comical:</p>
<blockquote><p>On October 1, 2009 Anthony Brown called our customer care center and spoke with a Call Center Agent, Anthony Brown was explained [sic] that the charges on behalf of BWU represent a collect call to his residence, Anthony Brown proceeded to dispute the charges and <strong>although we feel the call was received and accepted</strong>, a credit was approved for reimbursement and submitted back to his phone company which he was informed will be applied in 1-2 billing statements.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wow, I wish I could just get off of charges of fraud by saying &#8220;I didn&#8217;t do anything!&#8221; Wouldn&#8217;t that be super?</p>
<p>Anyhow, it looks like in an attempt to lower the Google results that bring up &#8220;BillwithUs fraud&#8221;, &#8220;BillwithUs cramming&#8221;, and &#8220;BillwithUs ripped off&#8221;, the lovely folks at BillwithUs have opened <a href="http://billwithus.com" target="_self">their own craptacular website</a>. The website provides nothing substantive &#8211; it&#8217;s obvious that they&#8217;re just trying to keep folks from reading about their fraudulent activities.</p>
<p>So, has anybody out there been scammed by these people? Any other interesting stories to share?!</p>
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